[Hamara-devel] what do people think about having mails from debian-devel-announce at lists.debian.org ?

[shirish]

In-line :-

On 04/17/2015 01:58 PM, Amardeep Singh wrote:
> Hi Shirish,
>
> My comments *inline*:
> On Thursday 16 April 2015 10:44 PM, shirish wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> What do people think about having mails from
>> debian-devel-announce at lists.debian.org . As can be seen on
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/ it says :-
>>
>> "Announcements for developers
>> Announcements of development issues like policy changes, important
>> release issues &c."
>>
>> It's a light-traffic list with having 10 or so mails in a month. Now
>> we could do either by having all the mails dumped from the announce
>> list or forward a few of the more interesting ones to the mailing list.
>>
>> Looking forward to know what the list thinks of the same.
> I think its good idea to keep an eye on announcements from debian,
> specially when we are going to use it as base. This will help in various
> way and keep us upto date.
>
> How are you planning to do this? RSS feed? or forward emails to
> hamara-devel or hamara-announce?

At the beginning I don't mind forwarding mails  to hamara-devel.

IMO, hamara-announce should only have mails which are vetted by the 
development group which is you, Vikas, Aparna and whoever else happens 
to be involved in development of hamara. We should never and I repeat 
never take mails from debian-announce and send it just like that.

What would be really interesting though is we are able to take part and 
understand various technical perspectives which happen on debian-devel. 
For instance, few days/weeks back there was an excellent discussion on 
c++11 standard , gcc 5 which has c++11 support and clang and discussions 
about compilers. All of which made for some very interesting reading 
although I can't say I understood all the 100% of it but did come to 
know a lot more than I knew before for sure.  These kind of 
mails/threads are common on debian-devel . The only downer is they take 
a lot of time and when flames break out it can be really messy.  For 
instance, when systemd was a pain point there were something like 2k of 
messages and if you are a masochist like me you try to keep to who said 
what and when as well but that as can be ascertained is not a healthy 
practise.

>> Why is it important ? Because any changes happening in Debian for
>> better or worse is going to affect us. There is also a
>> debian-devel at lists.debian.org but that is a pretty high traffic list
>> which I wouldn't recommend unless we know how debian works intimately.
>>
>> Another thing, are there any of us who want to become Debian
>> Maintainers or Debian Developers ?  While I'm not myself a DD because
>> it needs more dedication than I have or want to spend atm, do know how
>> the process works and am and willing to guide people who want to go
>> through the process.
>>
>> How this helps us ?
>>
>> It helps in various ways. It helps in getting our understanding and
>> making better our technical skills on packaging a long way.  Debian
>> has lots of tools and processes in place for making a distribution
>> release seamless while at the same time being thorough about it.
>> There is of course, lots more it can do but as it's a volunteer-driven
>> organization whatever they are doing has to be good enough for us for
>> now.  We could look at the processes,  use and re-use tools, processes
>> whatever is good from them to us and leave the ones which we either do
>> not need or are unable to do atm.  Apart from that, there are of
>> course  bragging rights that go with becoming a DD as well as having
>> more hacking/employment opportunities (especially in the European
>> Union,  Latin American Countries and increasingly so in the United
>> States as well.)  as well.
>>
>>   Look forward to know what people think about the same. As shared, I
>> am open to sharing all and any understanding I have both about
>> becoming a DM, DD as well as sharing about debian-project as well.
>>
>> Look forward to what people think of the same.
> I really want to be part of it. But currently have got enough on plate.
> As soon as things settle down, will definitely give it a go.

Let me know whenever things settle down a little bit and then we can 
start with some of the easy things to do.
Be aware though that the process is lengthy. While you do get 
individuals who are in within 6 months but for most of the people who 
apply it takes about a year. They are trying to make it shorter but they 
have shortage of people even in that.

> Thanks,
> Amardeep
>> -- 
>> Shirish Agarwal,
>> Community Lead,
>> Hamaralinux.org
>

-- 
Shirish Agarwal,
Community Lead,
Hamaralinux.org

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