[Hamara-devel] we should also take a look at freebsd.org specifically for infrastructure-related things.
shirish
shirish at hamaralinux.org
Tue May 19 18:25:50 BST 2015
addition at bottom :-
On 05/19/2015 08:30 PM, shirish wrote:
> Hi all,
> I had been wanting to document this for quite sometime now. While there
> are lot of things to be admired about debian.org frugalness is not in
> their nature. They have been blessed by having some of the best smart
> people who work on the project almost 'free', I say almost as they also
> boast to have some of the best industry contacts where the devs. do get
> compensated for doing custom work which is outside debian.org domain.
>
> Because of donations both in hardware and even official time being
> donated by different companies through DD's and DM's (one example being
> Canonical itself) debian.org can and does do things in style. You will
> see multiple levels of redundancies for critical pieces of
> infrastructure as well as constantly improving the leaf infrastructure
> as well. Over the last couple of years, debian has been constantly
> taking more and more services under the debian.org and making it better
> which were essentially third-party services. In effect, they are
> consolidating their presence and poised to take on even greater things.
>
> Now contrast this with FreeBSD.org which is exactly opposite to this.
> Their releases are unknown, perennially understaffed and under-funded
> and they had to innovate in terms of look and infrastructure. We should
> also take a look at FreeBSD.org to see how they solved any problem apart
> from debian.org apart from other sources. We might hit solutions that
> they (FreeBSD.org folks) might have taken an unusual and interesting
> solution.
>
> Sometimes, my debian fan-boyishness does get the better of me, so this
> is a sort of lesson for me as well as everyone else, we need to keep our
> eyes open as much as possible and see how others solved issues instead
> of reinventing the wheel as much as possible.
>
> Feedback appreciated.
>
And much more in fact. Now the Debian guys have got access to GNU's
compile farm as well, see https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm
the understanding is all those packages which take a long time to build
and are in Main would be send to these compile farms. (think gcc
This simply means, that debian.org will do more transitions than ever
before and take on more tasks.
I don't remember the exact wording of the law but there is a law which
like Moore's law has endured the last few decades. The law says or words
to that effect "If there are any spare computing cycles, a use will be
found for it. The same applies to network effects as well" It doesn't
put any claim to the quality but only the promise that a use would be
found and that's exactly what has happened here.
The upside for debian that there has been lot of excellent ideas over
the last few years which have not been tried due to not having enough
computing cycles, so one or more of those ideas might finally see the day.
Till later.
--
Regards,
Shirish Agarwal,
Community Lead,
Hamaralinux.org
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