[Hamara-devel] Just Got Raspberry Pi Delivered

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Gurvinder (2015-11-01 07:26:23)
> On Saturday 31 October 2015 03:39 PM, Vikas Tara wrote:
>> On 30/10/15 23:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>> Quoting Vikas Tara (2015-10-30 11:48:10)
>>>> We have been using raspberry pi because we got to it first - but 
>>>> we're not particularly tied to it.
>>>>
>>>> A more powerful board (more memory than rpi2) would be helpful in 
>>>> any case.
>>>>
>>>> The plan is to have a very cheap pre-installed hamara SBC available 
>>>> for people to buy - would be interested in your recommendation of 
>>>> what that SBC should be.
>>> "cheap" and "more powerful" pulls in opposite directions ;-)
>>>
>>> Short answer: Use OLinuXino A20 LIME2!
>>>
>>> More details...:
>>>
>>> Raspberry Pi 2 Model B:       EUR 32.87
>>> Raspberry Pi 2 official case: EUR 7.61
>>>
>>> OLinuXIno LIME2:              EUR 45
>>> OLinuXIno LIME official case: EUR  5
>> OK - it's worth us getting some hardware in order to make a build for 
>> this board. Gurvinder - do you want to get one in?
> Sure i do not see any problem in that, the specs looks similar to 
> cubietruck in terms of processor. I guess Cubietruck build should work 
> on it otherwise there will not be an issue creating one.

You both talk about "build" - I am confused, what needs building outside 
of Debian?

Will you rebuild binary packages from Debian _sources_ like Ubuntu does?

Will you use Debian binary packages but invent your own install routines 
and build those, hardwired to specific hardware targets that you will 
support?

Please note, I am not talking about what you do currently - I am aware 
that your systems are still Ubuntu-based.  I am interested in 
understanding how you plan on using Debian (if directly, at all).


> I also like Cubieboard because [...]

Cubieboard is not OSHW.  And is a different price range.

At different price ranges there are different options, including some 
that are OSHW.


>> I feel price point is very critical as reaching people that do not 
>> have access to computing equipment is high on our agenda.
>>
>> Equipping a school room for example - the above price difference 
>> would matter to some who are on very limited budgets.
> In india, there are few things always matters
> - Money
> - After sales warranty.
> - Popularity

Not only in India.  On planet Earth!

Question is what are your priorities.  And conversely, where are you 
willing to cut corners.


> If I am selling Raspberry Pi [...]

Sounds like you are willing to cut corners on "works with Debian".

You might then be better off not swithing to Debian but either stay with 
Ubuntu: Using hardware devices not working with Debian requires 
maintaining at least a custom-built kernel.

As you may already be aware, it is no simple task to maintain (not just 
build!) linux kernel packages.


> [...] as a solution to some organization then I would definetly go for 
> Raspberry Pi because - There are direct sellers available in India and 
> it is still cheaper that OLinuXIno LIME with taxes if i am not wrong. 
> - Popularity - After sales warranty support. Atleast I have someone 
> where I can go and get replacement if hardware goes bad.
> 
>>
>> Raspberry have just announced the production of customised boards for 
>> OEM's - do you know of anything similar from OlinuXIno?
> I saw that new as well, They have started realizing that they can 
> actually make more money by customizing hardware rather than selling 
> plain vanila version. I think it is good step and it will help expand 
> Raspberry Pi customer base.

Wait, so you choose RPi because they are available everywhere, yet you 
then deviate with a custom design that I suspect is _not_ available 
everywhere no easy to replace nor with warrant (wouldn't you yourself be 
the ones offering that warranty for custom-made products of yours)?


 - Jonas

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