[Hamara-devel] Fwd: An abrupt End to Debian Live

[shirish]

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On 11/09/2015 11:25 PM, Raju wrote:

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> [4] https://bugs.debian.org/754910
> [5] https://bugs.debian.org/804315

Hi all,
The most interesting bugs have mentioned above. They clearly show the 
issues which have been happening in Debian for about a year now. 
Old/Experienced contributors who have been contributing for a long team 
are being voted or told to ship out for sometime now and quite a few 
corporate users have been muscling in, more people who are easily being 
influenced by Canonical/Ubuntu. For e.g. the first bug shows more about 
the package being used to be more Ubuntu-friendly (so the diff. is lower 
and the maintainer is the same as Ubuntu/Canonical Maintainer). It also 
goes on to talk about upstart, systemd and multi-arch but says nothing 
about systems which have neither of the packages. Not something you 
would expect form an 'Universal Operating System'

At the same time Daniel himself has been known to be rude to people at 
times. Also, AFAIK both debian-multimedia and debian-live when they 
started had quite a bit of software which was non-free or/and not 
packaged and hence the decision to be away from Debian official and as 
Debian didn't have the resources the status quo remained.

Over the last 2-3 years the Debian trademark team has been active and 
has asking people to give back to Debian. While the romanticized and 
naive part of me wants to think it's just Debian asserting its trademark 
and name, the devious part thinks it might be due to now money being 
ploughed in due to Freeaxian's constantly talking with different 
partners https://www.freexian.com/services/debian-lts.html

You could also read it as Debian maturing as well, how the future will 
happen, nobody knows. If the money and churn means that Debian would be 
able to add and maintain more and more FOSS I'm all for it otherwise no 
but it's hard to take a call.

For instance, Debian has had a chronic shortage for Debian ftp-masters, 
Debian Account Managers etc. and that might well exist unless Debian 
finds a way to have people who have both the technical skills and are 
willing to put the time in. I don't know the answer to that and hence 
closing the mail on that note.

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Regards,
Shirish Agarwal,
Community Lead,
Hamaralinux.org