[Hamara-devel] A mis-match on development styles (kdbus)

shirish shirish at hamaralinux.org
Fri Nov 27 17:19:43 GMT 2015


Hi all,

See https://lwn.net/Articles/663956/

and especially https://lwn.net/Articles/663956/#Comments

I like Lennart's answer - yes the pulseaudio and systemd guy (mezcalero) 
and then the whole thread after it -

The claim that doing development on Github makes things more "insular" 
is a bit weird, no?

We moved systemd to Github precisely to make it easier for people to 
contribute, since there are certainly a ton more developers used to the 
Github ways, than to doing patch management with a mailing list. If 
anything, we did it to be less "insular", and to ensure that we get a 
wider range of drive-by patches. To lower the bar for contributions, 
because people tend to have a Github account anyway and are accustomed 
to its workflow. OTOH doing ML-based patch review not only usually 
requires you to sign up to that ML first, but then also is just 
massively awkward to use.

I am pretty sure that being on the "continent" that is Github with 
systemd is a much better choice to encourage contributions than being on 
our own private "island" with an isolated git, ML and bugzilla.- Lennart


and way down the thread

"We moved systemd to Github precisely to make it easier for people to 
contribute"

Contribute in the form of patching and nothing else, reporters cant even 
label their own reports so in that sense it's more "insular" and 
isolated to the self dubbed cabal ( RH employees ).

Another ( side ) effect from this move is that users apparently treat 
github as as support forum. - johannbg

and this one by mathstuff -

"Not if you don't keep backups of your issues, mirror the pulls/ ref 
namespace, and back up the wiki (if relevant). It's possible to gather 
all of the data, but it isn't just a "git clone". "

If you actually look github won the mind-share war long time back. for 
projects using gitlab (like hamara) gitlab needs to up its game quite a 
bit.

And I know there would be some backlash to the mail, but that's ok.
-- 
Regards,
Shirish Agarwal,
Community Lead,
Hamaralinux.org


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