[Hamara-devel] Just Got Raspberry Pi Delivered
Jonas Smedegaard
dr at jones.dk
Thu Oct 29 18:18:12 GMT 2015
Quoting shirish (2015-10-29 18:16:24)
> On Thursday 29 October 2015 10:31 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Quoting Vikas Tara (2015-10-29 17:20:21)
>>> On 29/10/15 15:16, Gurvinder wrote:
>>>> Raspberry Pi's with official case really looks cool.
>>> Now make it hamara :)
>>
>> Please note that Raspberry Pi 2 cannot run Debian¹.
> While you are sharing, why don't you share the freedombox concept. You
> could share the concept now and when you come down, you could share
> the implementation and till where you are with it when you are in
> Delhi. That might be useful for hamara.
>
> At the very least share the concept. I would just say it is an idea
> which came from Mr. Eben Moglen in one of his talks some years ago.
I am quite enthusiastic about the core concept Eben Moglen coined as
"FreedomBox" at his talk¹ at Debconf 2010, which sparked the Debian
"freedomBox" project and later the US-based non-profit "FreedomBox
Foundtion" led by Eben Moglen.
That said, I do not agree with the approach taken by those actively
developing the project (and have no clue what the Foundation is doing):
What got me involved was the emphasis on non-geeks - i.e. that is was
basically a server equivalent to "Linux on the desktop" now arguably
solved by GNOME, KDE, Xfce and (to a lesser extend) other projects.
What I envisioned as the FreedomBox was a box containing a plain
subset² of Debian - i.e. no new inventions unique to FreedomBox compared
to Debian in general - usable without system administration at all.
The FreedomBox in the making is a box mandating a uniquely invented
web-based system administration.
I still help out with the FreedomBox - e.g. tracking relevant boards and
reminding them that rPi is still not Debian (although newest press
release indicates that the Foundation indicates don't care about that).
I am involved more actively in a few other projects related to
FreedomBox - in fact directly inspired by it...
I've developed a tool called "boxer" to help manage which packages to
include when bootstrapping a system. I hope to discuss with you when we
meet (or before here by mail?) if that tool might be suitable for some
of your work with Hamara.
I've created a few Debian Blends (non-pure, for now) by use of above
boxer tool:
* DebianParl - actively used by a small group of pioneers in the
European Parliament.
* DebianDesign - inspired by the need of my partner, Siri, but not
yet actively used.
* DebianSugar - part of a project in progress to migrate 500.000
XO-1 laptops in Peru from the original OLPC fork of Fedora to
Debian.
Siri an I are both involved in the ShowMeBox team to develop a box
useful for creating data analysis visualizations, planned to be part of
next Debconf in South Africa: https://wiki.debian.org/ShowMeBox
While travelling in India - in parallel to collaborating with Hamara and
Swecha and various others - Siri and I will work on ShowMeBox as well,
and I will bring an OLinuXino LIME2 box for that which I can show you
when we meet :-)
Sory, I am not the big promotor of FreedomBox specifically, but I hope
this was inspiring too,
- Jonas
¹ http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/641
² Some years ago I coined the term "Debian Pure Blend" to describe pure
subsets of Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends#Terminology
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