[Hamara-devel] Fwd: Re: update on lxde accessibility

[Krishnakant]

On Wednesday 30 March 2016 07:25 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Krishnakant (2016-03-30 13:14:00)
>> Dear Hamara Hackers.
>> Your's truely and Vik have been having a discussion on a low memory
>> alternative and which is also accessible and easy to grasp.
>> I suggested Mate and he wished as you see in the forwarded email that we
>> discuss it on the mailing list.
>> I urge all of you to base your views on realistic grounds and not on
>> probable extra eferts which may be needed or personal favorites.
>> Read the discussion below and we can discuss further.
>> happy hacking.
>> Krishnakant.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:        Re: update on lxde accessibility
>> Date:   Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:09:54 +0100
>> From:   Vikas Tara <vik at hamaralinux.org>
>> To:     Krishnakant <krmane at openmailbox.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/03/16 11:42, Krishnakant wrote:
>>> Dear Vik,
>>> I remmeber you asked me to find out about a11y on lxde.
>>> Right now it is in progress and only little ground has been reach.
>>> however Mate is also a low memory consuming desktop emvironment and is
>>> tremendously accessible.
>>> I came to know that it is extremely popular in Brazilian blind
>>> community, they being second largest in the world when compared
>>> country wise.
>>> I am personlly using it as I write this email to you.
>>> I feel strongly that there should be a Mate spin of Hamara as the user
>>> interface is loved by many veteran users and new users find it easy to
>>> grasp.
>>> Kindly share your views on this.
>>> If you feel this can be done, then my team can make a project on this,
>>> without disturbing the current sugam branch.
>>> Happy hacking.
>>> Krishnakant.
>> I think we should put it to the community and have an lxde vs mate
>> discussion.
>>
>> I would be happy to drop lxde if mate can work on the raspberry pi and
>> other SBC's.
> No doubt the most polished among (relatively) lightweight desktops is
> Mate - because it is basically a continuation of GNOME 2.x and as such
> has had lots of attention on usability in the past.
>
> The main showstoppper for running Debian¹ on ARM-based devices is OpenGL
> - Mate (at least its core parts) can run without OpenGL, I believe.
Yes it does, just inquired from a few concerned people in my circle.
> Personally my concern is not so much "Mate or Lxde", but instead it is
> "GTK+ 2.x or GTK+ 3.x or Qt 4.x or Qt 5.x or which combination of
> those".  I believe _that_ is what makes it more or less lightweight -
> beyond avoiding OpenGL as core requirement.
>
>
As far as I am concerned, gtk3 is very buggy in many areas and 
accessibility is one of the major area in which there is a lot of 
problem there.
QT is almost 0 as far as accessibility is concerned.
And Mate as I use it now I see it is really very low on memory footprint 
and as you rightly pointed out it is as good as a modernized gnome 2 
interface.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.