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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/17/2015 01:58 PM, Amardeep Singh
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi Shirish,
My comments *inline*:
On Thursday 16 April 2015 10:44 PM, shirish wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi all,
What do people think about having mails from
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:debian-devel-announce@lists.debian.org">debian-devel-announce@lists.debian.org</a> . As can be seen on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/">https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/</a> it says :-
"Announcements for developers
Announcements of development issues like policy changes, important
release issues &c."
It's a light-traffic list with having 10 or so mails in a month. Now
we could do either by having all the mails dumped from the announce
list or forward a few of the more interesting ones to the mailing list.
Looking forward to know what the list thinks of the same.
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<pre wrap="">I think its good idea to keep an eye on announcements from debian,
specially when we are going to use it as base. This will help in various
way and keep us upto date.
How are you planning to do this? RSS feed? or forward emails to
hamara-devel or hamara-announce?</pre>
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At the beginning I don't mind forwarding mails to hamara-devel. <br>
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IMO, hamara-announce should only have mails which are vetted by the
development group which is you, Vikas, Aparna and whoever else
happens to be involved in development of hamara. We should never and
I repeat never take mails from debian-announce and send it just like
that. <br>
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What would be really interesting though is we are able to take part
and understand various technical perspectives which happen on
debian-devel. For instance, few days/weeks back there was an
excellent discussion on c++11 standard , gcc 5 which has c++11
support and clang and discussions about compilers. All of which made
for some very interesting reading although I can't say I understood
all the 100% of it but did come to know a lot more than I knew
before for sure. These kind of mails/threads are common on
debian-devel . The only downer is they take a lot of time and when
flames break out it can be really messy. For instance, when systemd
was a pain point there were something like 2k of messages and if you
are a masochist like me you try to keep to who said what and when as
well but that as can be ascertained is not a healthy practise. <br>
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Why is it important ? Because any changes happening in Debian for
better or worse is going to affect us. There is also a
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:debian-devel@lists.debian.org">debian-devel@lists.debian.org</a> but that is a pretty high traffic list
which I wouldn't recommend unless we know how debian works intimately.
Another thing, are there any of us who want to become Debian
Maintainers or Debian Developers ? While I'm not myself a DD because
it needs more dedication than I have or want to spend atm, do know how
the process works and am and willing to guide people who want to go
through the process.
How this helps us ?
It helps in various ways. It helps in getting our understanding and
making better our technical skills on packaging a long way. Debian
has lots of tools and processes in place for making a distribution
release seamless while at the same time being thorough about it.
There is of course, lots more it can do but as it's a volunteer-driven
organization whatever they are doing has to be good enough for us for
now. We could look at the processes, use and re-use tools, processes
whatever is good from them to us and leave the ones which we either do
not need or are unable to do atm. Apart from that, there are of
course bragging rights that go with becoming a DD as well as having
more hacking/employment opportunities (especially in the European
Union, Latin American Countries and increasingly so in the United
States as well.) as well.
Look forward to know what people think about the same. As shared, I
am open to sharing all and any understanding I have both about
becoming a DM, DD as well as sharing about debian-project as well.
Look forward to what people think of the same.
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<pre wrap="">I really want to be part of it. But currently have got enough on plate.
As soon as things settle down, will definitely give it a go.</pre>
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Let me know whenever things settle down a little bit and then we can
start with some of the easy things to do. <br>
Be aware though that the process is lengthy. While you do get
individuals who are in within 6 months but for most of the people
who apply it takes about a year. They are trying to make it shorter
but they have shortage of people even in that. <br>
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<pre wrap="">Thanks,
Amardeep
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<pre wrap="">--
Shirish Agarwal,
Community Lead,
Hamaralinux.org
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Shirish Agarwal,
Community Lead,
Hamaralinux.org</pre>
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